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Directors and Officers of TBN

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SECTION I: Answers to questions regarding Directors, Officers and Employees
 
 
      18   Q.          Who at Trinity Christian Center of
 
      19   Santa Ana, Inc. chooses the officers of that
 
      20   organization?
 
      21   A.          The board of directors.
 
      22   Q.          And who is on the board of directors?
 
      23   A.          I am chairman of the board and president. 
 
      24   My wife, Janice Crouch, is vice president and a
 
      25   director.  Until just recently, Mr. Norman Juggert, an
 
 
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       1   attorney in Orange County, California, was our
 
       2   secretary/treasurer, but he has become quite ill and
 
       3   has just recently been forced to resign.  And, as I
 
       4   indicated yesterday, my sister, Ruth Brown, has been
 
       5   added to the board of directors and as an officer. 
 
       6   That officership is secretary/treasurer.
 
       7   Q.          Trinity Christian Center of Santa Ana, Inc.
 
       8   loaned money to TBN Productions, Inc. for the making of
 
       9   The Omega Code movie; is that correct?
 
      10   A.          Yes.
 
      11   Q.          Who made the decision to make that loan?
 
      12   A.          The board of directors.
 
      13   Q.          Was there a meeting of the board of
 
      14   directors where that subject was voted upon?
 
      15   A.          Yes.
 
      16   Q.          When did that meeting take place?
 
      17   A.          I can't remember.
 
      18   Q.          Were minutes of that meeting taken?
 
      19   A.          Yes.
 
      20   Q.          Who took the minutes?
 
      21   A.          Either Mr. Juggert or Mr. Terry Hickey, who
 
      22   is not a director but an assistant secretary and an
 
      23   officer.
 
      24   Q.          At some point, you, Paul Crouch, became the
 
      25   executive producer of The Omega Code film; is that
 
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       1   correct?
 
       2   A.          Yes.
 
       3   Q.          And who made the decision that you would be
 
       4   the executive producer of The Omega Code film?
 
       5   A.          I don't think a decision was even
 
       6   necessary.  The entity and/or individual furnishing the
 
       7   financing is just, according to my understanding in
 
       8   Hollywood standards, is just automatically named the
 
       9   executive producer.
 
      10   Q.          Is Paul Crouch, Jr. an officer of Trinity
 
      11   Christian Center of Santa Ana, Inc.?
 
      12   A.          Yes.
 
      13   Q.          What position does he hold?
 
      14   A.          It's either an assistant secretary or an
 
      15   assistant vice president.  And I'm not sure.  I don't
 
      16   remember just which.
 
      17   Q.          What duties does he have as an officer of
 
      18   Trinity Christian Center of Santa Ana, Inc.?
 
      19   A.          You're distinguishing that as opposed to
 
      20   being an employee; is that correct?
 
      21   Q.          Is he also an employee?
 
      22   A.          Yes.
 
      23   Q.          What is his position as employee?
 
      24   A.          He heads up the IT department, information
 
      25   technology, which generally oversees the Internet, the
 
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       1   computers, the computer programs that facilitate the
 
       2   Internet.  He also works in the production area as a
 
       3   cameraman and does many different duties, really.
 
       4   Q.          Who supervises those duties of Paul Crouch,
 
       5   Jr.?
 
       6                    MR. RAWLS:  Assumes facts not in
 
       7   evidence.
 
       8                    THE WITNESS:  Generally speaking, I
 
       9   do.
 
      10   BY MR. QUISENBERRY:
 
      11   Q.          What are his duties as an assistant
 
      12   secretary or whatever his officer position is with
 
      13   Trinity Christian Center of Santa Ana, Inc.?
 
      14   A.          Very little.  We have named a few
 
      15   individuals as assistant secretaries primarily just to
 
      16   have a signatory for a document that requires a
 
      17   secretarial signature since many of us travel and
 
      18   sometimes it's difficult to gain one of those
 
      19   signatures.
 
      20   Q.          Is Paul Crouch, Jr. paid for his duties as
 
      21   assistant secretary?
 
      22                    MR. RAWLS:  Excuse me.  That is beyond
 
      23   the scope.  So you can answer of your own individual
 
      24   knowledge.
 
      25                    THE WITNESS:  No one is paid as an
 
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       1   officer of any of the corporations.
 
       2   BY MR. QUISENBERRY:
 
       3   Q.          And is Paul Crouch, Jr. paid as an employee
 
       4   in his position as head of the IT department for
 
       5   Trinity Christian Center of Santa Ana, Inc.?
 
       6                    MR. RAWLS:  Objection.  That is beyond
 
       7   the scope.  You are not designated on behalf of the
 
       8   corporation, but you can answer yes or no if you have
 
       9   any individual knowledge.
 
      10                    THE WITNESS:  Yes, he is.
 
      11   BY MR. QUISENBERRY:
 
      12   Q.          What's his annual salary?
 
      13                    MR. RAWLS:  Objection.  That is beyond
 
      14   the scope of the deposition notice.  It is neither
 
      15   likely to lead to -- it is neither relevant to the
 
      16   subject matter in the action or likely to lead to the
 
      17   discovery of admissible evidence, and it seeks private,
 
      18   confidential financial information about a nonparty to
 
      19   the action, and I'm going to instruct the witness not
 
      20   to answer that question. 
 
      21                    Well, I'll take that back.  If the
 
      22   answer is that you don't know, we can put that on the
 
      23   record.  But if you know, I'm instructing you not to
 
      24   reveal that information.
 
      25                    THE WITNESS:  Oh, I know.
 
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       1                    MR. RAWLS:  All right.  Then I'm
 
       2   instructing you not to answer that question.
 
       3                    THE WITNESS:  Okay.
 
       4                    MR. CASORIA:  And as the personal
 
       5   attorney of Mr. Crouch, this is beyond the 30(b)(6)
 
       6   deposition.  I'll join in the instruction to him not to
 
       7   answer, as his personal attorney.
 
       8   BY MR. QUISENBERRY:
 
       9   Q.          Is Matthew Crouch an officer of Trinity
 
      10   Christian Center of Santa Ana, Inc.?
 
      11   A.          Yes.
 
      12   Q.          What is his position as an officer of
 
      13   Trinity Christian Center of Santa Ana, Inc.?
 
      14   A.          He is not an employee and only an officer.
 
      15   Q.          And what is his position?
 
      16   A.          Again, only as kind of a signature of last
 
      17   resort if everyone is traveling.
 
      18   Q.          Do you know what his title is?
 
      19   A.          Assistant secretary.
 
      20   Q.          Are there any other relatives of yours that
 
      21   are officers of Trinity Christian Center of Santa Ana,
 
      22   Inc.?
 
      23   A.          No.  Other than the ones we've already
 
      24   mentioned.
 
      25   Q.          I understand.  Are there any relatives
 
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       1   other than those that we've already mentioned that are
 
       2   employees of Trinity Christian Center of Santa Ana,
 
       3   Inc.?
 
       4   A.          Yes
.
       5   Q.          Who?
 
       6   A.          My wife Janice Crouch's sister, Dorothy
 
       7   Casoria, is manager of the Atlanta, Georgia, station. 
 
       8   And her other sister, Lori Quinn, is manager of the
 
       9   Miami, Florida, station.
 
      10   Q.          Any others?
 
      11   A.          We're speaking strictly of Trinity
 
      12   Christian Center of Santa Ana now?
 
      13   Q.          That's correct.
 
      14   A.          There are no others.  Excuse me.  You're
 
      15   speaking of any related employees within Trinity
 
      16   Christian Center of Santa Ana, Inc.?
 
      17   Q.          That's correct.
 
      18   A.          Okay.  My sister, Ruth Brown, who is the
 
      19   new secretary/treasurer and director of Trinity
 
      20   Christian Center of Santa Ana.  Her husband, Allen
 
      21   Brown, is head of the finance department of Trinity
 
      22   Christian Center of Santa Ana.
 
      23   Q.          Any other relatives of yours that you can
 
      24   think of that are employees of Trinity Christian Center
 
      25   of Santa Ana, Inc.?
 
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       1   A.          No.
 
       2   Q.          Are there any of your relatives that are
 
       3   employees of Trinity Broadcasting Network, Inc.?
 
       4                    MR. RAWLS:  Objection.  It's beyond
 
       5   the scope of this deposition.  You can answer of your
 
       6   own personal knowledge, but you are not designated to
 
       7   answer on behalf of Trinity Christian Center.
 
       8                    THE WITNESS:  Trinity Broadcasting
 
       9   Network, Inc. has no employees.
 
      10   BY MR. QUISENBERRY:
 
      11   Q.          Is your wife, Jan Crouch, an employee of
 
      12   Trinity Christian Center of Santa Ana, Inc.?
 
      13   A.          Yes.
 
      14   Q.          What is her position as an employee?
 
      15   A.          Program director.
 
      16   Q.          And what are her duties in that regard?
 
      17   A.          She oversees the production of several, in
 
      18   fact, all, of the programs that are produced by Trinity
 
      19   Christian Center of Santa Ana, Inc.
 
      20   Q.          And who is her supervisor over those
 
      21   duties?
 
      22                    MR. RAWLS:  Objection.  Assumes facts
 
      23   not in evidence.
 
      24                    THE WITNESS:  I am.
 
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